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current landing predictions based on 04-04 data: 47.2779   -118.0687

 

The short of it: We do not need a NOTAM or a wavier. We need to contact the ATC 48 hours before launch and provide them information.

 

Here's the email saying as much:

 

Per our phone conversation. If you are less than the applicability section, you do not need a waiver. If you are more than the applicability, but can meet all the remaining requirements under the highlighted sections operating limitations and marking, you still don't need a waiver. Instead, we would just give you the phone number of the nearest ATC facility to contact to meet the notification requirements. If there is no waiver, there is no NOTAM. The AFSS only issues a NOTAM if there is a waiver. Give me a call when you decide where you're at within the part 101 and we'll go from there.

Cheryl Krieger Brown

System Support Specialist

FAA ATO, Western Service Center

1601 Lind Ave. SW

Renton, WA 98057

NEW phone number: (425) 917-6734

NEW fax: (425) 917-6746

@ /<

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Part 101 provided to us from the FAA

External info on Part 101

 

Cheryl provided this web resource:

 

 http://map.aeroplanner.com/mapping/chart/smartchart.cfm

 

kittatas ATC 509 962 7523

moses lake office (ask for ATC number) 509 762 1367

 

 


Here's what we have to send the ATC:

 

 

§ 101.37 Notice requirements.

(a) Prelaunch notice: Except as provided in paragraph (b) of this section, no person may operate an unmanned free balloon unless, within 6 to 24 hours before beginning the operation, he gives the following information to the FAA ATC facility that is nearest to the place of intended operation:

(1) The balloon identification.

(2) The estimated date and time of launching, amended as necessary to remain within plus or minus 30 minutes.

(3) The location of the launching site.

(4) The cruising altitude.

(5) The forecast trajectory and estimated time to cruising altitude or 60,000 feet standard pressure altitude, whichever is lower.

(6) The length and diameter of the balloon, length of the suspension device, weight of the payload, and length of the trailing antenna.

(7) The duration of flight.

(8) The forecast time and location of impact with the surface of the earth.

(b) For solar or cosmic disturbance investigations involving a critical time element, the information in paragraph (a) of this section shall be given within 30 minutes to 24 hours before beginning the operation.

(c) Cancellation notice: If the operation is canceled, the person who intended to conduct the operation shall immediately notify the nearest FAA ATC facility.

(d) Launch notice: Each person operating an unmanned free balloon shall notify the nearest FAA or military ATC facility of the launch time immediately after the balloon is launched.

§ 101.39 Balloon position reports.

(a) Each person operating an unmanned free balloon shall:

(1) Unless ATC requires otherwise, monitor the course of the balloon and record its position at least every two hours; and

(2) Forward any balloon position reports requested by ATC.

(b) One hour before beginning descent, each person operating an unmanned free balloon shall forward to the nearest FAA ATC facility the following information regarding the balloon:

(1) The current geographical position.

(2) The altitude.

(3) The forecast time of penetration of 60,000 feet standard pressure altitude (if applicable).

(4) The forecast trajectory for the balance of the flight.

(5) The forecast time and location of impact with the surface of the earth.

(c) If a balloon position report is not recorded for any two-hour period of flight, the person operating an unmanned free balloon shall immediately notify the nearest FAA ATC facility. The notice shall include the last recorded position and any revision of the forecast trajectory. The nearest FAA ATC facility shall be notified immediately when tracking of the balloon is re-established.

(d) Each person operating an unmanned free balloon shall notify the nearest FAA ATC facility when the operation is ended.

 

 

 


at 5pm on 3/27/07, 3ricj spoke with the moses lake ATC. Carl Reda fielded our call. 3ricj provided the following information:

 

(1) The balloon identification.

AHAB

(2) The estimated date and time of launching, amended as necessary to remain within plus or minus 30 minutes.

8am on March 4th

(3) The location of the launching site.

Near Lake Grimes, 47.7343 -119.5952

(4) The cruising altitude.

Max of 70,000 feet

(5) The forecast trajectory and estimated time to cruising altitude or 60,000 feet standard pressure altitude, whichever is lower.

1 hour

(6) The length and diameter of the balloon, length of the suspension device, weight of the payload, and length of the trailing antenna.

8 feet

3.7 lbs weight of the payload

20 feet suspention legnth

15' antenna length

(7) The duration of flight.

1 hr 47 minutes

 

(8) The forecast time and location of impact with the surface of the earth.

9:47am

48.0406 -118.8906, near buffalo lake.

 

Carl requested we notify him at launch, when coming back down under 60k, and impact.

 


 

 

at 1130am on 3/3/07, 3ricj spoke with the moses lake ATC. 3ricj provided the following information:

 

(1) The balloon identification.

AHAB

(2) The estimated date and time of launching, amended as necessary to remain within plus or minus 30 minutes.

9am on March 4th

(3) The location of the launching site.

Lake Lenore, 47.1428   -119.9239

(4) The cruising altitude.

Max of 70,000 feet

(5) The forecast trajectory and estimated time to cruising altitude or 60,000 feet standard pressure altitude, whichever is lower.

1 hour

(6) The length and diameter of the balloon, length of the suspension device, weight of the payload, and length of the trailing antenna.

8 feet

3.7 lbs weight of the payload

20 feet suspention legnth

15' antenna length

(7) The duration of flight.

2 hr 31 minutes

 

(8) The forecast time and location of impact with the surface of the earth.

11:31am

46.3458   -120.0572 , near sunnyside

 

 

+1800 262 0616

 

 

Carl requested we notify him at launch, when coming back down under 60k, and impact.

 


 

New Report

 

(1) The balloon identification.

AHAB

(2) The estimated date and time of launching, amended as necessary to remain within plus or minus 30 minutes.

9am on March 4th

(3) The location of the launching site.

Grimes Lake, 47.7322   -119.5944

(4) The cruising altitude.

Max of 70,000 feet

(5) The forecast trajectory and estimated time to cruising altitude or 60,000 feet standard pressure altitude, whichever is lower.

58 min

(6) The length and diameter of the balloon, length of the suspension device, weight of the payload, and length of the trailing antenna.

8 feet

3.7 lbs weight of the payload

20 feet suspention legnth

15' antenna length

(7) The duration of flight.

1 hr 45 minutes

 

(8) The forecast time and location of impact with the surface of the earth.

8:45am

47.0743   -118.996 , near Barham.

 


 

 

New Report 3/3/07 3:35pm

 

(1) The balloon identification.

AHAB

(2) The estimated date and time of launching, amended as necessary to remain within plus or minus 30 minutes.

9am on March 4th

(3) The location of the launching site.

Grimes Lake, 47.7322   -119.5944

(4) The cruising altitude.

Max of 70,000 feet

(5) The forecast trajectory and estimated time to cruising altitude or 60,000 feet standard pressure altitude, whichever is lower.

56 min

(6) The length and diameter of the balloon, length of the suspension device, weight of the payload, and length of the trailing antenna.

8 feet

3.7 lbs weight of the payload

20 feet suspention legnth

15' antenna length

(7) The duration of flight.

1 hr 47 minutes

 

(8) The forecast time and location of impact with the surface of the earth.

8:47am

47.8320   -118.2128 , south of Miles, near 25

 

VOR @ http://www.airnav.com/cgi-bin/navaid-info?id=EPH&type=VORTAC&name=EPHRATA

 

22nm, 321 radial from VOR.


New Report 4/4/07 1:51pm

I spoke with Carl <carl.f.reda@faa.gov> and provided the following information:

 

 

 

(1) The balloon identification.

 

AHAB

 

(2) The estimated date and time of launching, amended as necessary to remain within plus or minus 30 minutes.

 

3pm on saturday 4/7/04

10 am on sunday 4/8/07

 

 

(3) The location of the launching site.

 

Near Grimes Lake, Lat 47.685312 Lon -119.507904

 

(4) The cruising altitude.

 

Max of 70,000 feet

 

(5) The forecast trajectory and estimated time to cruising altitude or 60,000 feet standard pressure altitude, whichever is lower.

 

56 min

 

(6) The length and diameter of the balloon, length of the suspension device, weight of the payload, and length of the trailing antenna.

 

8 feet

 

3.7 lbs weight of the payload

 

30 feet suspention legnth

 

15' antenna length

 

(7) The duration of flight.

 

1 hr 47 minutes

 

 

 

(8) The forecast time and location of impact with the surface of the earth.

 

+ 1 hour 47 minutes from launch

 

47.2779   -118.0687 ,  Near Sprague Lake

 

 

He has requested that we submit a NOTAM; we need to calculate the VOR of the launch and landing sites.

 


New Report 4/4/07 1:51pm

I spoke with Carl <carl.f.reda@faa.gov> and provided the following information:

 

(1) The balloon identification.

AHAB

 

(2) The estimated date and time of launching, amended as necessary to remain within plus or minus 30 minutes.

1500on saturday 4/7/07

1000 on sunday 4/8/07

 

(3) The location of the launching site.

 

Near Grimes Lake, Lat 47.685312 Lon -119.507904 ( 47°41'7.12"N, 119°30'28.45"W)

 

(4) max cruise  FL807 (ETD +44 min FL600, return to FL600 ETD +64 min)

 

(5) The forecast trajectory and estimated time to cruising altitude or 60,000 feet standard pressure altitude, whichever is lower. 56 min

 

(6) The length and diameter of the balloon, length of the suspension device, weight of the payload, and length of the trailing antenna.

8 feet

3.7 lbs weight of the payload

30 feet suspention legnth

15' antenna length

 

(7) The duration of flight.

1 hr 40 minutes

 

(8) The forecast time and location of impact with the surface of the earth.

+ 1 hour 40 minutes from launch

47.6929   -118.5996 (47°41'34.44"N, 18°35'58.56"W)

 

 


New Report 4/4/07 1947

Kayobi spoke with Seattle Center FSS (NOTAM controller ID: CV) (800.262.0616) and provided the following information:

 

(1) launch site: EPH (Ephrata VOR) 19NM at radial 330

 

(2) projected landing site: EPH 37NM at radial 040

 

(3) estimated time to FL600 (ETD +44 min)

 

(4) flight duration: 1 hr 40 min

 

 

 


New Report 4/5/07 1808

Kayobi spoke with 1-800-WX-BRIEF and was given the following info:

 

(1) NOTAM has been published:

 

04/008 -  HIBAL EPH330019 NE BND REACHING FL600 07 APR 22:00 UNTIL 07 APR 23:40

04/007 -  HIBAL EPH330019 NE BND REACHING FL600 08 APR 17:00 UNTIL 08 APR 18:40

 

(2) Saturday afternoon weather should be great. There might be a few high altitude clouds but those should pose a problem.

 

(3) Sunday we have an upper southwesterly wind at altitude (good for us). There is a cold front coming in from the West which may bring moisture (clouds) over the tops of the mountains. Chance of cloud layer at 10,000' - 12,000' and again at 12,000' - 25,000'. (We need to stay 500' away from any clouds)

 

 


 

Cloud cover definitions:

FEW Few 1/8 - 2/8

SCT Scattered 3/8 - 4/8

BKN Broken 5/8 - 7/8

OVC Overcast 8/8

A ceiling is defined by the lowest reported layer of BKN or OVC.

 

101 weather minimums: 

 

(b) At any altitude where there are clouds or obscuring phenomena

of more than five-tenths coverage;

 

(c) At any altitude below 60,000 feet standard pressure altitude

where the horizontal visibility is less than five miles;

 

 


 

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